What's a "Cleanse" and Why is Everyone Doing Them? with Rachelle Beazley
In this episode of the Kindling Project podcast, Melissa Halpin welcomes Rachelle Beasley, a wellness experience creator and founder of Aloe and Alchemy. They discuss Rachelle's journey into the wellness space, the importance of creating memorable experiences, and the connection between breath, detoxification, and emotional health. Rachelle shares insights about her Cleanse Club, the significance of community support, and the role of human design in self-discovery. The conversation also touches on women's health, menopause, and the interconnectedness of body and mind.
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Melissa Halpin (00:12)
Welcome back to the Kindling Project podcast where we explore what sets your soul on fire and how to turn that spark into something real. I'm beyond excited today to welcome Rachelle Beasley. She's a wellness experience creator. She's the founder of Aloe and Alchemy and she's the co-founder of the Cleanse... welcome, Rachelle. Thanks for being here today.
Rachelle (00:35)
Thank you Melissa, I'm super excited.
Melissa Halpin (00:37)
Yeah, you and I just recently connected in person, even though we've been connected online and been at the same events for years. And it was We just have so much overlap and I feel like it's going to be a great conversation.
Rachelle (00:43)
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I agree. mean, when we spoke that first time, I think we talked for like three hours. It felt like 30 minutes.
Melissa Halpin (00:56)
Totally, I'm like, this is one of my sisters. just, yeah, we're doing a lot of the same things and have sort of the same calling. But let's tell our listeners a little bit about your origin story. Alo and Alchemy, it's such a pretty name. What does it mean to you?
Rachelle (01:11)
Thank you. You know, it's funny, I don't talk about it that much. I probably should talk about it more. So aloe and alchemy, aloe, where a lot of people think about aloe as the plant, right? And it's really good for your skin. Some people consume it, like, but mostly with skin, right? But aloe in a plant in its whole form is actually very detoxifying. So it's really good to have aloe in your home.
Melissa Halpin (01:29)
Right, right.
Rachelle (01:37)
much aloe in our house anybody needs any aloe I got some for you. But it actually it detoxifies the air and so and then alchemy if people aren't really familiar with alchemy it's the process in in very in a very short term it's the process the the scientific process if you will or chemical process of turning something into gold. And so really what the name means is that there's like that first part where
you are detoxifying. You're taking like all of the stuff out, the things like that you've been conditioned to believe who you are or if it's like physical, know, like I'm a co-founder of the Cleanse Club. It's like physically detoxing your body and then taking that and turning it into gold. so really it's like who you become. It's like the shining light that you have once you've kind of gotten rid of all like the muck and the dung.
Melissa Halpin (02:16)
Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
I love that. I bet others have mentioned this before, but one of my favorite books is The Alchemist. Yeah.
Rachelle (02:31)
Thank you.
Yeah, I get that.
I get it a lot. is such a good book. I actually need to read it again. I know some people that read it like every year and learn something different from it every time.
Melissa Halpin (02:43)
Yeah, I've read it a couple of times and I've given it away a couple of times, it comes back. But I love that idea. And maybe after this podcast, you can give me some tips because I have this beautiful aloe plant in my kitchen that's not doing well. Like it's sort of gray looking and it's lost leaves from the bottom up. So I don't know. Think about that. If you know the answers, like maybe it's really absorbing some bad energy in there in my kitchen.
Rachelle (02:56)
Mmm.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
mean maybe and it does depend on sunlight. it's fine, doesn't need direct sunlight.
Melissa Halpin (03:15)
It's in a west facing window. Maybe it's too sunny. Yeah, yeah.
Rachelle (03:17)
Maybe yeah, it could also be
a little too sunny. depending on it depending on placement I would move it into a different area of your house and And see what happens
Melissa Halpin (03:26)
Okay, so that sounds good. So what drew you to the world of wellness and retreats?
Rachelle (03:31)
So it's a great question because my background is actually in events in hospitality. I went to Michigan State for hospitality business. And I'd say 2016, 2017, I just started getting this urge that I would be doing something more in the wellness world. So about 11 years ago, I saw my first functional medicine focused chiropractor.
Melissa Halpin (03:48)
Mm.
Rachelle (03:58)
I just all of a sudden got really curious on what was going on in my body. I felt fine, if you will, but all of a sudden I was just like really curious about everything. And then I was reading and I just find like the science and the data and like all the things just, I totally nerd out on it. hence the reason why I co-founded a cleanse club. Because I just think it's, I think it's so cool and I love sharing all that information. And so all of a sudden I was like,
Melissa Halpin (04:03)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (04:24)
I know that this is the area that I'm supposed to be in. At that time, I was managing events and weddings. And so my passion was really in wellness, passion and service in sharing my own story and helping others like impact others with that. But I didn't, I wasn't yoga certified, I wasn't meditation certified, didn't rakey, like, I didn't have any of these things. But I just had this like passion of learning. And, and so I was like, you know what,
I'm just going to keep following the things that light me up and see what happens. 2020 happened and I hired my first business coach without having a business. And she helped, like we had our first session and she helped me like see that she's like, I, she had a vision of me leading these huge retreats. And I was just like, my gosh. Okay. That's great. Yeah. So yeah. And so it's, it's all coming into fruition. it's that's.
Melissa Halpin (04:57)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, you could... Yeah, and you're doing it.
Rachelle (05:16)
That's pretty amazing. had my first, I because I started it in 2020, great time to start a business, right? Yeah, right. But I started doing virtual retreats. And I remember getting done with my first one. And I got up from my desk and I sat in my chair, my meditation chair. And I was like, wow, this is the feeling that I've been looking for. And it was just so it was so powerful. And so it was it's it's been quite the journey. But
Melissa Halpin (05:22)
Especially for retreats.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (05:43)
That's how I moved into the wellness space.
Melissa Halpin (05:47)
It makes perfect sense. And I bet you hear this all the time, because I know I hear this all the time with the Kindling Project. Something was going on there. Something was going on there 2018, 19, 20. Obviously, the whole world experienced the pandemic. But so many people got an awakening at that time of, I'm doing this. I'm doing events. Events are fine. But I need to do this kind of event. And it's really very similar to my story.
Rachelle (06:07)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Halpin (06:11)
I've been making and creating and building and designing things for decades, but I need to do those on a specific platform for women for a specific reason. It's almost like I think of this as like, I talked to women after women, and obviously my business is very female-centric, but I think this applies to the guys too. A lot of us are just getting this sort of narrowing and this messaging of like, okay, I'm over here and I just want to be over here.
Rachelle (06:18)
Yeah.
Boom.
Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (06:37)
Yeah,
so sounds like that's what happened to you. So describe yourself now as a wellness experience designer or creator. How is it different from other kinds of events? What is it that you're going after when you are putting these together?
Rachelle (06:50)
So there's two parts. So I often go back to a time of my childhood when it's like you'd walk into a space and you're like, like what's hiding in this drawer? What's hiding in this closet? Like where like the wonder and curiosity. then you, I remember having dreams as a kid where I'd like open a drawer and there'd be like all this gold or like toys or like what, you know what I mean? Like this discovery of like, what is it? And so.
Melissa Halpin (06:58)
Thank
Yeah
Treasure.
Rachelle (07:16)
like these treasures, right? And so I
really think about that when I'm creating experiences. So when you ask, you know, what's the difference between what I do and, you know, a coach or someone who refers to them as a retreat leader, and they might be doing some of the same things too. There's a lot of really incredible retreats out there. But I am trying to bring in
Melissa Halpin (07:34)
Great.
Rachelle (07:39)
It's like elevating the experience. I'm trying to bring in like when you walk into the space, it's like this moment of awe, like that you're inspired specifically even just the space, but then also like, we're doing complimentary scalp massages and here's just a warm cup of tea and just like a moment for you to just breathe before the class or the session even starts.
Melissa Halpin (07:59)
Thank
Rachelle (08:02)
So it's this very much like this well-rounded experience. I'm using my hand. I don't know if you can see my hands. I'm Italian.
Melissa Halpin (08:07)
No, no,
I'm all about it. I'm all about it. Yeah.
Rachelle (08:11)
can't help it.
But it's creating this whole experience where people just really feel held for a moment. I mean, longer than a moment. You're normally there for like two hours. But it's really just creating this from the start to finish where you just feel really supported.
Melissa Halpin (08:19)
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think this is why I just sort of have this big crush on you is I really get that. I really get that that's what matters. I don't know if you, after we met, like looked at my website, but my tagline for my design agency for 15 years has been we create memorable experiences. And to me, it's that sort of, it can be two hours, you can be held for two hours, but it can just be like the smell of a pie or it can just be like,
the way somebody feels or the texture of something. Like these are the experiences that stick with us, inform us. I feel like maybe it's coming out of being a museum person and exhibits are definitely always through the lens of who's the audience, who's the visitor, what's gonna delight them. But I love how you describe your retreats like that. And then I feel like if you're going for that moment of awe,
Rachelle (09:11)
Right.
Melissa Halpin (09:20)
then you're not necessarily finding a script, and you're not curating a panel, and you're not following something that's formulaic, because by nature, those things aren't awesome, right? They're not surprising, and they don't stick with you. Even if somebody says something amazing on a panel or during a lecture, it's not the same as a feeling. So yeah, no, you're onto something, for sure.
Rachelle (09:44)
Thank you.
Melissa Halpin (09:45)
I think I read either on your website or in a review that someone described the whole event as an exhale or a deep exhale. And I was like, I need a deep exhale.
Rachelle (09:51)
Mmm.
Yeah, I like
to I remember one time when I was first like when people are like, what do you do when I first started this? They were like, what do you do? And I had such a hard time describing it. But I specifically remember saying to like a friend one time, and I was like, want this like when people when people come to these events experience what I do, I want it to be the same kind of feeling when you
Melissa Halpin (10:08)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (10:23)
that moment when you first get into bed and you lay down and you put the covers on and you're like, like that, that, where you're just like, that's, that's the feeling that I want people to have.
Melissa Halpin (10:26)
Right.
yeah yeah yeah
Right, right. Oh, even when you were describing that, I was thinking about that, the exhaling and then like how great it is when the sheets are cold or when they're crisp or, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, like a scent and all those tactile experiences. And plus, I just think we're all holding our breaths every day, every minute.
Rachelle (10:44)
Mm-hmm. Clean when you have a clean bed.
Melissa Halpin (10:58)
Lately in this world we're in we're just you know hanging Hanging by our nails hanging by our teeth hanging by a thread and and not breathing and I mean I know you have yoga at your retreats and I've on and off Practiced yoga for 30 years, but if you haven't had that yoga experience, there's more to it than just being on the mat It's a consciousness that kind of follows you through the rest of your life or your day
Rachelle (10:59)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And that's, you know, I was actually thinking, you know, the importance of breath and even just in myself, I remember one of my very first breath work sessions and it was in the evening. It was like a group and I slept so soundly that night. Like I can't even specifically remember when I woke up in the morning. I was like, I don't even remember the last time I slept like that.
Melissa Halpin (11:25)
Right.
you
Rachelle (11:48)
And it just really got me thinking just about how, to your point, like we do, we have so much, like everyone's breathing obviously, but it's so shallow a lot of times, especially if we're stressed or we're on the go and we're not in the moment or intentional with what we're doing. And if we don't take time to like actually deep breathe, like how that affects, how that affects our body, how it affects our anxiety, how it affects our stress, like.
Melissa Halpin (12:02)
you
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (12:13)
you know, all of the things and and our sleep so many people right have, you know, disturbed, you know, interrupted sleep all the time. They don't sleep soundly, they wake up, and they're still tired. And you know, and there's multitude of reasons for that. But, you know, if if we just there's, and there's like, the shortest of breathwork exercises you could do right before you go to bed, that take like, two minutes, not even and have such a profound effect on your sleep. But it's just like,
just thinking about how important that is for like the deep inhale and the deep exhale.
Melissa Halpin (12:46)
And spending a couple of hours at a retreat is like a reminder, right, if it's effective for you. And it feels to me like you're balancing some of this stuff that we're talking about kind of falls into a woo category. But it's also like real world needs that we all have right now. I mean, we know there's like an epidemic of anxiety or depression or a
Rachelle (12:50)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Halpin (13:10)
anger. I mean I see like a ton of rage these days. I probably need to get off the internet but so how are you walking those two lines of like real life, real practical needs versus this other space that we're in?
Rachelle (13:23)
So. Actually really much really the blend of the cleanse club and also aloe and alchemy you know when you talk about when you talk about anger the first thing I think of is like the liver and the liver holds the emotion of anger and so we actually just did a- liver gallbladder flush where we have one more session for the liver gallbladder.
Melissa Halpin (13:28)
Mm-hmm.
Anyway.
Right.
Rachelle (13:46)
detox for this for this group. And it's so interesting the emotions that are released. When you do I mean, it's I could go on and on about the importance of flushing your liver and how a lot of us are living with a clogged liver and how that literally impacts everything from depression, anxiety, stress, hormone imbalances, emotions, like, I mean, the list goes on and on. And so there is
Melissa Halpin (14:10)
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (14:11)
that in itself, although there's what people might consider woo mixed in there, that is very tangible. And then and then these events, honestly, it's sometimes it's not even it's not even speaking what it is, people just have to experience it. And and they leave. And there's two things that I've noticed. Either one, people will come up to me and go, I was not expecting to feel so much. Some people cry.
Melissa Halpin (14:16)
Yeah.
Right.
Mm.
Yeah.
Rachelle (14:38)
Or you just see this look on their face. They're like, my gosh, what just happened to me? I Was not expecting that And so there's there's something really powerful when you put the puzzle pieces together in a certain way and and that's what I really enjoy doing and so It's hard when you like talk about like the practical like we depending on the event that you go to or the experience that you're a part of
Melissa Halpin (14:43)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (15:02)
You know, sometimes it's very much focused on the experience, you know, and it's just there to help to really to help you give help give yourself that deep exhale to help you feel something again, to help unlock something that's maybe been stuck inside. And you know, and then there's, you know, we do when we do the cleanse club, and we do talk about practical tools and modalities and things that you can incorporate into your life that
Melissa Halpin (15:15)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (15:29)
help with all of these things, like the knowledge part of it. So it really depends on which piece you're a part of.
Melissa Halpin (15:36)
interested in the cleanse club like can you tell me what are the logistics of it is it in person is it in line I'm mine it's all virtual
Rachelle (15:43)
So it's all virtual. It's
all virtual. Most groups are five weeks. And so it's not just cleansing. There is an education part to it. So a big part that people forget about cleansing, detoxing, flushing, all of those words can be similar and also very different, is that we all have filters in our body, pathways of elimination, your kidneys,
Melissa Halpin (15:54)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (16:09)
your lymph, your thyroid, your intestines, your liver. I'm pointing to my liver like you can see me point to my liver. And unfortunately, a lot of times we're not taught how to keep those filters clean. So it's just like, it's just like you're, yeah.
Melissa Halpin (16:11)
and
Right.
We don't even talk about it. It's not till
you get your blood panel and your doctor says your liver enzymes are high and you're like, what? What does that mean? I've had that. I have a, personally, have psoriatic arthritis. So it's an autoimmune condition and I get a lot of lymph buildup. And it wasn't until I was getting a massage one day that the massage therapist is like, do you want a lymphatic drainage or do you want to incorporate that? Like I can feel like a lot of swollen lymph. And then afterwards, like,
Rachelle (16:30)
Right.
Mmm.
Melissa Halpin (16:49)
I'm flushing, I'm flushing, I'm peeing like 14 times in the middle of the night and I'm like, nobody has mentioned this to me. Like I'm taking all these anti-inflammatories that I could just get this very gentle massage and move this lymphatic fluid around, right? I just don't know if it's in our, yeah, who's gonna tell you? If your doctor doesn't tell you, you're gonna just stumble into the information.
Rachelle (17:02)
E?
Right. Well, yeah, and
that is that is a rabbit hole that I could go down. But for today, I'm not going to but but to your point, I mean, it's it's definitely things that we we don't learn in school how our body actually works and how to take care of it. And so just like you go and get your oil changed in your oil filter and your air filter and all of these things in your car because they get dirty.
Melissa Halpin (17:16)
Yeah. Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Rachelle (17:35)
We
also need to do that for our bodies. And so there's a lot of reasons why our filters get dirty. and, know, some of it is heavy metal exposure through the soil, through our water, through the air, through our food, heavy metals, any sort of toxins, like all of the things. And so that really what what led to the cleanse club is that I had been sick for eight months straight.
Melissa Halpin (17:41)
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (17:59)
leading up to April of last year, so it was almost a year ago. And my good friend Alicia Long, she's a natural health therapist. She has almost done with her naturopathic doctor program. And she had this book club. And the book was the detox memoir. And I don't remember why at that time I was like, I need to do this. It was just something in me told me I needed to do this. And this book totally changed my life. Like it is
Melissa Halpin (17:59)
Mm.
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (18:24)
so incredibly powerful. We actually include it in the cleanse club now because it's called the detox memoir. Yep. Right out. Yes. The author is Dr. Christopher Duret. He's actually a local principal, but his background is in science and the book is about his story and how he was having all of these issues. No doctor could really help him.
Melissa Halpin (18:29)
how was the name of the book again?
The detox memoir. Okay, I'm getting that on Amazon when we hang up.
Mm-hmm
Rachelle (18:52)
And then he started doing his own research and found out he had an MSG allergy and then he had high mercury like toxicity and like all of these other chemicals or heavy metals in his body. And then like his journey on how to heal, like how he ended up healing his body. And so I did the gallbladder flush in May last year, the first time, and I passed a gallstone the size of a Robin's egg, Melissa, the size of like it literally,
Melissa Halpin (19:08)
Mmm.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (19:19)
I don't know how TMI can be in this podcast, but I mean, it felt like a little, like a little turd that came out, like a little soft turd. And I was like, I know that's not poop because I haven't eaten and I've been, like, there's a whole protocol where you flush your, your, your digestive system. And I literally took it. If you go to my Facebook or Instagram page, I posted about it where you can see a picture of it and it was remarkable. And so my.
immunity immediately skyrocketed after that. I think I've been sick maybe twice since then. And I just did my second one on Monday. But each group, so we've led two groups now for the liver gallbladder flush. And I think everyone, we've had a total of 50 plus women, every single woman except for two, I think, passed gallstones.
Melissa Halpin (20:06)
So I had gallstones in my 20s and 30s, and I my gallbladder removed. And I mean, it was incredibly painful. I don't know how your thing went, but hopefully it's more gentle than trying to get rid of the gallbladder problems where I would lay on the floor, I felt like I was dying.
Rachelle (20:10)
Mmm.
Yes.
So
yeah, this is another rabbit hole we could go down, it's what what happens a lot of times is that there's there is some inflammation gallstones Although they're called gallstones are actually created in your liver so So there's an issue with your liver. So what happens is when they remove the gallbladder? Because it can be easy to remove it's an auxiliary organ. So if they remove it, doesn't kill you but what they don't tell you
Melissa Halpin (20:38)
Right, I can't read that.
Rachelle (20:51)
is how it can affect your entire body after that. So, and you're not really getting rid of the problem of why you're getting gallstones to begin with. So that's one of the amazing things about what Allie's doing is that her program is all about finding the root cause of what's going on. So for me, I did a hair analysis and I just did this really cool oligo scan where it scans your hand. I just posted about it.
Melissa Halpin (21:06)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Rachelle (21:17)
And
it gives you all of the heavy metal levels and vitamins and mineral levels in your body over the course of your life. So finding out exactly what is causing these issues, what's causing your liver to start making stones to begin with. Because for me, I have an issue with fibroids. I have one that's quite large. And once I started, after I did the gallstone, or the
Melissa Halpin (21:33)
Yeah.
Rachelle (21:41)
Yeah, the gallstone flush, liver flush. I found out that fibroids grow from excess estrogen in your body. So then I started researching what causes, or like what breaks down estrogen, your liver. So if your liver isn't functioning properly, it's not breaking down estrogen. And now like if you have fibroids, they're now growing. So ever since doing that liver flush, that very first one, I've now done three.
Melissa Halpin (21:48)
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (22:07)
I virtually have no cramps. My bleeding is got is every time it gets just a little bit better. It's still it's still on the heavier side. Definitely, but it's definitely it's it's gotten so much better. And where I'm like not bleeding through all of my clothes anymore. Yeah, so but the fact that you have to do it, we're doing
Melissa Halpin (22:08)
Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
think I'm coming to the next liver cleanse. Like sign me
up. I mean, I'm, I think a decade or more ahead of you on this journey. So I'm having more menopause issues, but I had all of that stuff in my twenties, thirties and forties. And now I have different stuff, but my last couple of blood panels, definitely they were like, you have elevated liver enzymes. Well, what should I do about it? Well, nobody tells you what you're supposed to do.
Rachelle (22:39)
Yeah, it's okay.
No, they just want to
give you a whole bunch of medication. And I'm not telling anybody, obviously I'm not a doctor. I am not telling anybody not to take their medication. What I am saying though, is that there are natural ways to heal your body. And it's super important to flush your body because we live in a toxic world. We cannot get away from the toxins that are around us. And so we have to...
Melissa Halpin (22:57)
Right.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Rachelle (23:21)
do we have to flush our body, we have to chelate, which means it like binds to the metals in our body to get rid of them because then we get all of these problems and then we're not taught in a cultural way, we're not, or in society, how to actually take care of our bodies. It's just take this medication, take this medication. I've had so many doctors tell me that I should be taking cholesterol medication.
And it's, mean, it's definitely elevated, but I'm really intrigued to see what it is. I haven't had it checked since doing the liver flush. What it is now because bile, which is created by the liver flows to your gallbladder and then is concentrated is what breaks down cholesterol and fat in your body. So, so people see here high cholesterol and they think heart, which is obviously totally normal. They're very connected, but
Melissa Halpin (23:52)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (24:11)
what like you have to figure out like why you have high cholesterol and a lot of times they say diet which can vary depending on how many like the processed foods that you're eating very much connected but you also have to look at like is your liver clogged because if it is then it's not breaking down fat and cholesterol so you have excesses cholesterol in your body so like I said I can go about this this summer we're doing the parasite parasite cleanse but it's it's just
Melissa Halpin (24:29)
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (24:38)
If you can't tell, I get really amped up about it because it's just so powerful and so important. And I just love learning about all of the things going on in my body. like, I love getting blood work done. I love getting all the tests done. At one point I made a whole spreadsheet to track everything. I'm like, because if somebody else isn't, like if my doctor's not doing it, like who's gonna do it? And so...
Melissa Halpin (24:55)
Right, right, right?
Rachelle (25:01)
So I just think it's so interesting how everything is just so connected.
Melissa Halpin (25:06)
And it feels more reasonable that it would be connected. And so many of us who either don't have the time or don't have your passion for it, we still want someone else to help us connect the dots. I feel like managing my own health care and having to go to an allergist and a rheumatologist and a gynecologist and a massage therapist and a mental health therapist. This is a whole other job.
Rachelle (25:09)
Right. and-
Melissa Halpin (25:30)
that I don't feel like we all should have to get educated and do, we should have guides to help us look at this, right? And I just, love that you're filling that gap. And I know in my own life, like I've needed somebody to, can we just talk about my mental health care and my physical health care and my prescriptions and my LL plant and my sleep behavior? Because really everything is all connected.
Rachelle (25:34)
100%. Yeah.
It is and unfortunately,
we have all of these different people, but they're not communicating and, and a lot of the medical system looks at our body as separate pieces when it's all connected. And so one of the biggest parts too, and this was like coming up, one of the biggest parts about the cleanse club is we do this in community. So when we have zooms, everybody is there. Everyone is.
Melissa Halpin (26:00)
No.
Right.
Rachelle (26:18)
cheering each other on, adding, know, yes, I'm going through the same thing. You know, it's and we had a woman come on last week and she's like, she's like, I had the hardest time, like motivating myself to do this. But it was being in this community. was everything that people were posting in the Facebook group. It was all of those things that finally was like, OK, yes, I'm going to do it. It was it is what kept me moving forward.
Melissa Halpin (26:33)
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (26:44)
And that's the piece that's missing a lot of times is that community piece and people think that they have to do things all on their own and it can be really overwhelming.
Melissa Halpin (26:52)
It is, it's overwhelming and I think there's something about having the confidence to trust just yourself, which is hard. Like you said, you didn't go to medical school, I didn't go to medical school and it's not just about medical school. It's like being able to collect information from others and feel safe and feel it's reflected back to you. Like, no, you're not crazy. You're not going down a rabbit hole. These things are all connected.
Rachelle (27:01)
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Halpin (27:18)
We all are experiencing these disconnects, right?
Rachelle (27:20)
Right. Well, and
so, I just want to tell like a quick story because it is connected. When I picked up golf, okay, throw golf in the eye, you're probably like...
Melissa Halpin (27:31)
Okay. Okay, that
sentence is never coming out of my mouth.
Rachelle (27:36)
So I started
playing again, gosh, I don't even remember how many years, this is probably like 10, 11 years ago I started playing again. I'm not currently playing, but I picked it back up and I went to this, my best friend's parents live down in Florida right by a PGA course. And I was like, oh, it'd be so cool to get a professional lesson. So I went and they take a video of your swing and then they compare it to, they do a side by side of a
Melissa Halpin (27:44)
Okay. Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (28:05)
of a professional and they're like, so you can see the difference. And like, and I was like, I don't know if I really want to see this, but he was like, you don't have to be, he's like, these are all the things that are going wrong, but you don't have to fix all of these individual things. We are going to fix three things that will fix all of it. And so, yes. And I think, I think it's connecting in your brain right now. And so when you talk about like going to see an allergist, someone for your arthritis,
Melissa Halpin (28:20)
yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Rachelle (28:31)
your mental health therapist and people, obviously you're not the only person that's dealing with all of these different doctors, if you will, telling you all of these different things, wanting to put you on all of these different medications. And a lot of times the medic, and I don't obviously know for you, but a lot of times the medications are making them sick. So then they need to go on a different medication to help with this symptom and like all it's symptom management. You're actually not fixing anything. And, but if you just did like,
Melissa Halpin (28:39)
Right.
Rachelle (28:57)
Two things, it could potentially fix most of what you're dealing with. And a lot of it stems back to the liver.
Melissa Halpin (29:01)
Right.
I'm starting with that next, my friend. You have more than convinced me I'm gonna try the liver cleanse.
Rachelle (29:07)
And
we do get this question a lot. They're like, I do the gallbladder flush if I don't have a gallbladder? And the answer is an astounding yes, because it starts in your liver. And so this is a liver and gallbladder flush. It's not just your gallbladder. So yes, if anyone is listening to this and they have that question, because it's really incredible how many people
Melissa Halpin (29:22)
Right.
Rachelle (29:33)
now I've talked to you, have had their gallbladder removed. And I actually had one person, she was very adamant about not having it removed, but it was in so much pain. I think it was a Monday and she was supposed to have it removed on Friday. And her best friend knew that at the time knew that like I was doing all of this. And she reached out to me. And so I gave her the protocol and she did it and she still has her gallbladder. And so.
Melissa Halpin (29:50)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah,
I can't get mine back, but I would try the gallbladder flush too. I still actually have weird sort of phantom gallbladder pain where there is no gallbladder. So I don't know. Maybe it's scar tissue. Who knows what it is. But everything is connected. And the idea that these systems, like you can take something out of the system, or you can just deal with one system and not all the systems, it never makes sense to me. Yeah. Yeah.
Rachelle (30:06)
Hmm.
bit.
Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Because it doesn't make sense.
Melissa Halpin (30:22)
Because it doesn't make sense because everything's interconnected. I mean, the the vascular system or the digestive system in a human body can't function by itself outside of the human body. Right? And it it applies to everything too. It applies to relationships in our external world. Like you can't just separate these systems and be like, well, we're going to fix the security on the building or we're going to fix the the the water or the the HVAC and that's going to
Rachelle (30:24)
Yes.
Right.
Melissa Halpin (30:50)
The whole building has to function as a whole.
Rachelle (30:52)
Right, right. You have all these window leaks and so the building isn't getting cold enough. something's wrong with the HVAC system. Something's wrong with the AC. So we're just going to keep doing that and like pumping the AC except that, but that's not where the problem is.
Melissa Halpin (30:54)
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah. And I think it's partially because we have such a society where you have to specialize. And then also all these specialties are competing for our time and our dollars. Right. So that's the problem with integrated everything is convincing people that things are integrated. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Rachelle (31:16)
Mm-hmm. Yes.
Yeah, they're all connected. It's all connected.
Melissa Halpin (31:27)
So well, let's get a little more personal about you. think one of the things that I found really fascinating about you, and you kind of renewed my interest in something that I had looked at 10, maybe 15 years ago, and then hadn't picked it back up, is human design. Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
Rachelle (31:42)
Mmm.
I could talk about human design all day, Melissa. Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (31:46)
I know, I know, got, we went down that rabbit hole
and then after I talked to you, I spent some hours like, I remember somebody did these charts for me, but I just had forgotten about them and hadn't picked them up in 10 years. And now I'm looking at them again for, for me and my husband and my daughter and my son. Yeah. Yeah.
Rachelle (32:02)
It's so interesting.
human design is kind of on the same parallel as astrology. It uses your birth time, your birth location, and your birth date. And it really is, you have this body graph. The chakras are included. So it's your energy centers, and then there's actually two additional centers. And it's about how your body was energetically designed to be, how you show up.
Melissa Halpin (32:11)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (32:29)
how you work, how you emote, like your health, your stress, how you connect with your body, your personality. There's all these, I mean, it's very nuanced just like astrology is. And so I will get into the nuance parts of it, like the deeper parts every once in a while, but it goes really deep. And there are people that have extensive knowledge and I respect them so much.
and so there's fi I don't know how deep you want me to go into this, but there's, five different, there's energy types, there's profile lines, there's, you know, your, correct digestion. There's how, like, how you make decisions best. and it's a lot of it for me is an awareness tool. And so noticing when I am putting too much pressure on myself internally, I have an open crown.
Melissa Halpin (32:56)
Mm-hmm.
Is it?
Rachelle (33:21)
And so that energy isn't there naturally. And so sometimes I will, my head will just spin trying to find the answer for something. And I'm actually just wasting a lot of time and energy because I don't work that way. I need to like put it out there and then wait for the answer to come to me. And sometimes it does. And most times it takes longer than I would like it to, but it's a trust, right? And then there's, you know, then there's the, you know, I also have an open route and that's external pressure.
Melissa Halpin (33:44)
Yeah.
Rachelle (33:50)
So I can find myself procrastinating into the last minute because that will give me this energy in my body that I don't create naturally, this natural adrenaline, because that's created in your root to get things done. But what actually is best for me in my body is to give myself space. And I know, I feel it when I create space in my timeline, in my work, and all the things, I feel so much better.
Melissa Halpin (34:01)
Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
Rachelle (34:16)
So it's just, it's, and there's conditioning in it where we can be conditioned, especially in like our open centers. You know, and it's, it's just, it's so, I just find it so interesting. And I love to, especially when I talk to, when I talk to women, cause it's, it's a part of my, body love immersion that I have, which is really, it's a body discovery immersion. I almost feel like I want to change it because a lot of it is about, it's,
Melissa Halpin (34:16)
Yeah.
Rachelle (34:40)
deeply rooted in discovery, self discovery. But when I talk to them about digestion, and especially the one it's called alternate appetite, where they need instead of like me, I will eat like a bite of a burger and then a bite of a French fry. And then I'll take a little bit of this and I do like a little bit everything they need to eat like one thing at a time. And when I say that to them, and they're like, my gosh, I do that. Like,
Melissa Halpin (34:42)
Thank
Yeah, I'm like you. like everything to be like a stir fry or a charcuterie plate or chopped up and mixed together. And my daughter doesn't even like the foods to touch. She will eat the broccoli first and the chicken second and the mashed potatoes last. And I don't even like plates that look like that. I like plates that are colorful and that are chopped up and everything's together. And even if it doesn't start out like that, I will.
Rachelle (35:06)
Yes.
Yes, and
Right.
Melissa Halpin (35:30)
I'll cut it up and stir it together before I eat it. Yep.
Rachelle (35:32)
Yes, 100%. And so
it's interesting, but the cool thing, I'm glad you brought up your daughter because what I think is so powerful in it is parenting and human design. Because sometimes it's harder to recognize some things in ourself, but it's easier to recognize them in other people. So my best friend's daughter, she's 10, she is a manifesting generator. And I'm not gonna necessarily get into all the details about that, but they are here.
Melissa Halpin (35:51)
Right.
you
Rachelle (36:00)
excuse me, they are here to do a bunch of different things, but not necessarily all at the same time. And so I said to her, I was like, does she start a lot of things, but not finish them? And she's like, my gosh, all of the time. And yeah, yes. Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (36:04)
Mm-hmm.
That's me. I'm also a manifesting generator. I
thought I was a manifestor because I think that's the only word I remembered. But when I when you looked at it, you said you're a manifesting generator. And then I went back and read about it. was like, yeah, this all sounds right.
Rachelle (36:25)
Yes, yes, you
know who also is a manifesting generator is Jessica York. I know she was just on your podcast. Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (36:31)
She was just on the podcast with me.
And one thing you said to me, and maybe it's not specific to manifesting generators, but about the open crown, I also have that about the putting it out there and waiting. Just in the couple weeks since I talked to you about it, so this is my little bit of human design application, I've been telling myself, don't push, just wait. Because often the only joy I get is out in the making and the creating.
Rachelle (36:52)
Mmm.
Mm, mm-hmm.
Melissa Halpin (36:58)
And then once I've made or create something, then I just want to push it into reality. Like, I just want to birth it and be done with it. And I want everyone to agree. And like, chap, chap, we're done here. And so I've just been telling myself, like, just wait. Just wait. Just you're done with your part. Other people can get to it when they get to it. And just in small ways, even like little arguments in my family or.
Little things with some of the women who work with me. I've noticed it goes better if I don't push when I'm done with my part. If I just wait.
Rachelle (37:27)
Ooooo
Yes, yeah. And for you specifically,
because you have the generator part of you, your strategy is to respond. So there is a waiting that's involved. Where like, I am a pure manifestor where I don't have to wait. Once I have the urge, I can move. And a lot of people have actually said that to me before. I specifically remember I had an old roommate who said this.
Melissa Halpin (37:42)
Right. Right.
Right. Yeah.
Rachelle (37:58)
And she's like, I just admire so much how you just go and you like do you like start these things, you put yourself out there. Like, and, and I didn't, that was before I even really got into human design. And so now that I'm in it, it's, it's also like an understanding and a reaffirming of, yeah, this, this is who I am. And so, I mean, and it's, it's important. And, and I, when I first started really diving into it right around when I started my business.
Melissa Halpin (38:17)
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (38:25)
It's really easy to get caught up in the like, well, what is a perfect manifesto look like? What is a perfect manifesto day look like? What like all that gets so stressed.
Melissa Halpin (38:34)
Right. Right. But
now you're taking on roles and expectations. Right.
Rachelle (38:38)
Exactly. it's like, no,
it's just a noticing. It's like, okay, I noticed that I'm putting this pressure on myself and it doesn't feel good. I noticed that when I do this, it doesn't feel good. I noticed when I take afternoon naps, I feel better. And so, because naps, I remember when I had my first reading done and they're like, naps are really good for you, Rachelle. And I was like, you don't have to tell me twice. Like, I will take a nap. But it's because of how my energy is.
Melissa Halpin (38:44)
Bye.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Rachelle (39:05)
And so when I do need to take a nap in the middle of the day, don't, I don't feel guilty about it. Like I need this right now. Or when my brain starts shutting off at like eight o'clock instead of, and there are some evenings where I do have to, you know, I have the energy and I do need to do things later, but I'm not pushing myself to be productive because it's not going to be productive. So it's more for me reframing my days so that
Melissa Halpin (39:05)
Right.
Mm-hmm.
Rachelle (39:31)
I get better at what can I actually accomplish in a day and not what do I think I can accomplish in a day. So there's all of that that's included. they say it takes about, from the time you really dive into human design, it takes about seven years to truly live your design because there's a lot of deconditioning and beliefs of how we think we should be based on family, friends, society, like all the things our entire lives.
Melissa Halpin (39:53)
Right.
Rachelle (39:57)
and releasing that which can be really hard and accepting who we actually are.
Melissa Halpin (40:01)
Yeah. Well, I had the charts for my family done about 10 years ago. And I just picked them up again recently when I had lunch with you. So I guess we're seven years out. And all four of us are different types. So I think we've got a manifestor, and then I'm a manifesting generator, and then my daughter's a generator, and my son is a projector. So we're we're we're.
Rachelle (40:22)
Right.
Melissa Halpin (40:23)
I don't think they're all coming along with me on the journey, but we got a seven-year journey ahead of us. But the way I look at all of these kind of well-being tools, if you will, I don't know what the language is for it. Whether it's astrology, whether it's a cleanse, whether it's human design, whether it's a tea, or whether it's a yoga practice, it's fun to explore, and it's fun to find the ones that resonate with you. And they don't exist for no reason.
Rachelle (40:26)
Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (40:47)
Right? People are trying to provide structure to taking care of ourselves and finding our way in the world because we need it. Right? We need explanations and vocabulary and tools and habits and practices, or we wouldn't be seeking them out.
Rachelle (40:54)
Right, right.
And there's,
mean, like I said, it's really easy to get lost in all of it and to feel really overwhelmed. it's not here for that. It's really just, for me and how I look at it, it's deeply rooted in acceptance, right? And being able to accept parts of you. And I have a lot of people when I do, when I'll do like mini human design readings, because I like to give people the information.
Melissa Halpin (41:09)
Right.
Mmm.
Rachelle (41:28)
in smaller chunks so it doesn't feel overwhelming. But they're like, I'm a generator. 70 % of the world is generators or generators. I'm not special. I want to be a manifestor. There's only like 9 % of us in the world. And I was like, and I understand like that first reaction to it. You know, everybody wants to feel special. I totally get that. I'm gonna tell you right now, being a manifestor isn't easy. Okay. But.
Melissa Halpin (41:42)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Right.
No.
Rachelle (41:55)
But it's not about... Yes!
Melissa Halpin (41:57)
married to one he's
not having a good time a lot
Rachelle (42:00)
It's hard sometimes.
Melissa Halpin (42:01)
Well,
and I don't know what the percentage for manifesting generator is, but this isn't easy either. And I have a feeling life is not easy for anybody.
Rachelle (42:09)
No, but it's, it's not easy. It's not easy
for anyone, but it's, it's really about like, okay, you were born in this body with, with a certain level of energy flow and, and, wisdom and all different kinds of things. And so it's really about helping you reconnect to that, to, to that in general, to how, how you were born and whether it's
Melissa Halpin (42:17)
Right.
Right. Right.
Rachelle (42:33)
human design or astrology or gene keys or your genetic makeup or your generations past. just read the other day, shoot, how many generations is it? Is it three or four generations back? It affects our DNA. yeah, so whatever happened to your great, great grandparents that it trapped, however they handled stress.
Melissa Halpin (42:50)
Yes, the epigenetics.
Yes.
Rachelle (42:59)
they're eating what you know and just imagine what the world was like back then that that stayed in their genetics it affected their genetic code and it's traveled now down to you so a lot of times people are like I don't know why I respond this way to stress I don't you know like this isn't something that could stress me out it could have been something that was stressed your great-great-grandparents and now you're dealing with it and so there are ways to heal that and to release it and and all the things
Melissa Halpin (43:00)
Right.
Yes.
Rachelle (43:27)
First, it comes with knowledge and accepting that, but there are so many things, and which in itself can feel overwhelming, but it's like, what do you feel connected to right now? What resonates with you in this moment? And move forward in that path, down that path, and just stay curious. Curiosity has led me in so many amazing directions.
Melissa Halpin (43:32)
Mm-hmm
Yeah, and understanding, right? Understanding. When you were saying about your generations, and I've done a fair amount of reading about epigenetics, because I find it fascinating. I just was having this argument, I don't know, whatever, today's Friday, maybe on Tuesday. I'm seeing a nutritionist, because I'm on one of the common weight loss drugs right now. And so they want you to track your calories, and they want you to track your protein, and your macros, and all that stuff.
Rachelle (43:55)
Mm-hmm.
Thank you.
Mmm.
Melissa Halpin (44:19)
And I know that my Irish ancestors who survived the potato famine are affecting me. Don't tell me calories in or calories out. And the doctor's saying to me, well, know, kind of like sort of mathematically, like the calories you're eating, like you should be losing. And I'm like, well, I'm maintaining. I'm sorry, but my ancestors lived on a potato a week for a very long time.
Rachelle (44:41)
This is
Melissa Halpin (44:45)
I don't need to eat as much as other people to still be a little chunky. These are the cards I was dealt. They're in my genes. It's not a simple math equation for me. And I think that when people or doctors or experts, that they're given some math or they're given some equation, they don't factor in. We're all responding differently. I know I respond differently to the number of calories. I know I do.
Rachelle (45:04)
Well, so...
So you
know what's interesting about that, Melissa? 100%. Not everybody is the same.
Melissa Halpin (45:14)
Yeah.
No, we're not.
Rachelle (45:16)
just got that oligo scan done, the scan of my hands to check everything. It told me that I have like low levels, low levels of chromium in my system. And that if I even tried to lose weight right now, it would be so difficult for me to do that. And so it's like there's where you might just go to the gym and you might be not you just anyone, right? They're like,
Melissa Halpin (45:19)
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
Rachelle (45:41)
you know, reducing their calories and working really hard and, and you can just be working way harder than smarter because one, if you're already stressed, you're probably stressing your body more. There are other things in the background. Like it could be your genetics, but that are in play. There's like so many different things. Yes.
Melissa Halpin (45:51)
Right.
I'm
convinced that I need a lot less calories than your average bear. I just know. I know. And anyone who knows me is like, wait a minute. Like you're eating less than me. have my very, very best friend from childhood is like a little bean pole of a person. And we've lived together at different times. you know, obviously we've had thousands of meals together in the 40 some years we've been friends.
Rachelle (46:04)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Yeah.
Mmm.
Melissa Halpin (46:23)
She can eat me under the table. mean, she can literally, she can eat her meal, she can eat the half that I didn't and then order dessert and she's not putting on weight, right? She just has a different metabolism, different body. And I really like the medication that I'm on because it keeps the hunger noise down for me. And I haven't lost on it in six months. And so the doctors and the science is saying, well, if you're taking it,
Rachelle (46:34)
Yes.
Mmm.
Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (46:50)
you should be losing or you're eating more than you're saying. And I'm like, no, I'm not eating more than I'm saying. I just happen to be a person who can live on air. I can live on a potato.
Rachelle (46:57)
Right. Well, right. I can live on a potato. And obviously, like, don't
know, and not that I'm asking or we need to talk about the reason why you're taking it, but a lot of times if you're not getting the reaction that you should be getting from something you're taking, it's because there's something else going on. And I just watched something today that our bodies are
incredibly intelligent. It just it truly amazes me when I just learn more things that when we have heavy metals in our body, our body stores them in fat to keep them away from our vital organs as much as possible. So sometimes we put on extra weight or keep extra weight as a protective measure. Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (47:29)
Mm-hmm.
Mmm.
protective mechanism.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Rachelle (47:45)
And so
there could be, there could be a lot. would, I would be really interested to see what your scans came back and like what was going on, like on that more of that root level, because I think it would be really interesting, especially having your gallbladder removed too, because your, your bile isn't being concentrated anymore. So it's not as effective at cleaning out your intestines. So it's just, it's like a whole, it's, it's a whole thing, but
Melissa Halpin (47:56)
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So tell
us again, anyone who's listening might want to know too, what was the scan you had and how do I go about getting the scan?
Rachelle (48:17)
Yes.
So the scan is the it's called the Olegoscan O-G-L-I-O and then scan and my friend Allie Long. Her company is Sunny Side Up Wellness and so she has it at her office. The scan literally takes like 30 seconds and then and then it brings everything up and then she goes through everything and then we'll send you like a whole report about her like her recommendations and first steps and
Melissa Halpin (48:23)
Okay.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Okay.
Rachelle (48:43)
and all of the things. yeah, she's the one that you can go and get it done. Her office is in Milford. But it's not that far.
Melissa Halpin (48:51)
I'm in Northville.
It's not that far. My mom used to live in Milford. Okay, so I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do that. I'm doing the liver cleanse and I'm doing the Oglio scan. The thing I was gonna say just, you know, cause I'm into over sharing. The reason I wanna stay on the medication is I don't necessarily wanna lose any more weight. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm in my 50s. Yeah, I'm a little chubby, but I'm fine.
Rachelle (49:01)
Yes. Yeah, so, go ahead.
Yes.
Melissa Halpin (49:17)
I like the medication almost as a psych med of it. calms the food noise. It keeps me from eating. It suppresses my appetite. So it's like, I want to stay on it because I like how I feel and how I don't have food noise and how I'm not overeating or getting up in the middle of the night eating half a bag of chips. But I think the medical community is saying, well, this is a weight loss medication.
Rachelle (49:22)
Mmm.
Mm-hmm.
Melissa Halpin (49:40)
and you really couldn't be following the protocol anyway or you would still be losing. And I'm like, well, I'm not still losing, but I'd like to stay on it. So that's where I'm at with my medical care. And I imagine there has to be a bunch of us who survived the Irish potato famine, who feel this way, right? Who feel like, wow, this medication really helped me lose 40 pounds. And also now that I'm maintaining, I still really like what it's doing to my brain.
Rachelle (49:56)
Yeah.
Mmm.
Melissa Halpin (50:05)
And then the doctor's like, well, you should still be losing if you're really only eating 800 to 1200 calories a day. And I'm like, well, no, I'm not.
Rachelle (50:15)
So a little bit about it. So a lot of these medications, they're GLP-1s, right? Your body naturally produces the GLP-1 peptide. Most people don't know that. you naturally produce it. And there are things that you can do naturally to amp up that production.
Melissa Halpin (50:21)
Uh-huh.
Right. Yeah, I do know that.
And maybe
I wouldn't need to take a shot. Maybe I could do something else because I really feel like the most powerful thing, it's great to lose a couple pant size. A lot of us want to do that and I feel good about it. The thing that is really great is not having that constant food noise of like, go eat another sleeve of Girl Scout cookies. That's actually better than a smaller jean size for me is like turning that off. So yeah.
Rachelle (50:40)
Yes.
Sure.
Great.
Sure, yeah. Well, and sometimes, depending on what
we're craving, your body is telling you something. So a lot of times, and we just actually talked about this in the, so we did a kidney flush in January, because it's actually really good to do a kidney flush to get your kidneys primed before you do the liver flush and before you do the parasite cleanse. have, there's there's a method to our madness and why we do the cleanses in the order that we do them.
Melissa Halpin (51:07)
Yeah. Right.
Rachelle (51:27)
And the kidneys are very much connected to your adrenals. Your adrenals actually sit right on top of your kidneys. And so when you are craving, let's say like potato chips or something salty, it's because your adrenals are fatigued. So there's actually a really tasty adrenal cocktail and we made it during one of our sessions. all, everybody had like, they were out like in the kitchen, they had all the ingredients and we made it together. And so.
Melissa Halpin (51:27)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Rachelle (51:51)
most times you can drink the adrenal cocktail instead of eating potato chips and feel just as satisfied.
Melissa Halpin (51:58)
put salt in my smoothies. And my kids are always like, that doesn't go with strawberries. And I'm like, my friend, it does.
Rachelle (52:04)
So it sounds like maybe we have some a little adrenal fatigue.
Yeah, yeah. So it's so it's really interesting. But what's hard is the mind is so powerful. It's so and this is something I've really been sitting with, not to go on like a tangent, but like this is something I've personally been like sitting with a lot over the last year in how truly powerful your mind is in both the positive and the negative. And so a lot of people I have, I can't tell you how many different notes I have in my phone.
Melissa Halpin (52:08)
Yeah, yeah.
Right.
yeah.
Rachelle (52:34)
where I've started to write like a post of something because of this really good idea comes and then I don't finish it. specifically though, like, my gosh, and now I totally lost my train of thought. but a lot of people think that every single thought that you think is yours and it's not actually. And so there's this phrase that I read in a book, I cannot remember which book, it was a few years ago.
Melissa Halpin (52:53)
No.
Rachelle (52:59)
And was the thought there's thoughts that you think, and then there's the thoughts that come to you. And the thoughts that come to you are normally the ones that are that are meant for you. The thoughts that we are we get in these vicious cycles thinking about that that we can't like this nonstop, incessant chatter in our head normally isn't a natural thought or part of who we are. Our our gut, if our gut is unhealthy, which most people have an unhealthy gut, it affects our brain.
Melissa Halpin (53:09)
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Rachelle (53:26)
80 % of our hormones and my gosh, the chemicals like happy chemicals, serotonin, your neurochemicals are actually produced in your gut. So the foods you're eating are directly connected to anxiety and depression and your thoughts and sleep and all of the things which I know a lot of people hear, but when you start.
Melissa Halpin (53:35)
Like your neurochemist.
Rachelle (53:51)
when you start realizing that some of these negative thoughts that you think are yours are actually not. They're not. They're not.
Melissa Halpin (53:57)
Yeah, yeah Oh
that makes perfect sense to me. You know what the good thing about this new friendship between you and I we could probably go on tangents for a hundred hours We're gonna have to have a whole new podcast and you just come back every week because this could be ten hours Yeah, yeah no no and I think that
Rachelle (54:01)
Yeah.
It's the open crown, Melissa. It's open and we can talk about all the things.
love it. Yeah, let's do it. I'm done. Yeah.
Melissa Halpin (54:23)
think the fact that we're having this conversation and we're super excited about it is not isolated. Everyone I know is sort of having these discoveries and wants to these conversations.
Rachelle (54:28)
Mm-mm.
100
% especially you mentioned that you are you know more in the menopause phase of life and that is something that I've just been hearing so much lately and Ali Ali actually just did a whole incredible podcast with her she's like a menopause coach I don't know what her actual title is it's supposed to be like an incredible episode but
Melissa Halpin (54:41)
Mm-hmm.
Right.
Rachelle (54:55)
how many women feel lost in this new phase of life because their doctors are like, well, your blood work is coming back normal. This is just normal. And I can tell you, it's not normal. My mom was on certain supplements. I think back, I honestly don't even know when she went through menopause outside of her telling me that when her periods were getting irregular and my god.
Melissa Halpin (55:05)
No, it's not normal.
Rachelle (55:20)
I started bleeding and I haven't bled in six months or like whatever it is. But like, I don't remember her talking about hot flashes or mood swings or anything because she took control, like not that you can be in control really, but she started implementing different things so early on that she didn't really have the the normal menopause symptoms that they tell us are normal. And it's crazy to think about, like I don't remember any of it.
because it didn't, and she is a strong Italian woman. And if I'm going to tell you right now, if she had, she had symptoms, everybody would have known about it. I don't know. But, but so that's why I like even this worked. It doesn't matter what phase you are in life. If you are feeling lost or your doctors aren't, you're not getting the answers. You, have this feeling that like there is something else out there. Like, let us know between myself.
Melissa Halpin (55:52)
Everybody would have known.
Rachelle (56:11)
Allie and our third, our triangle in the cleanse club, Lindsay, she founded the Wellness Warrior Collective, the three of us, like we created this cleanse club to help any, it doesn't matter what phase of life you're in, it can help you.
Melissa Halpin (56:19)
Mm-hmm.
Well, I will put all the links, all the things in the show notes so anybody listening can also find this awesome trifecta of women. And I really am glad that I got to have you on the podcast today. I'm glad you joined the community. It definitely all feels like it's unfolding the way it's supposed to. And I think we're going to do great stuff together.
Rachelle (56:37)
Me too, Melissa.
I Yes. And we'll get you into the next cleanse.
Melissa Halpin (56:48)
I'm in, I'm in. Well, thanks for reminding us that slowing down can actually be the most radical thing we do. Your work is a gift. And we're so grateful you shared it with us today. So go check out Aloe and Alchemy, everybody. We'll have that in the show notes. You can find Michelle in our community, the Kindling Project, Ignite.
Rachelle (57:07)
I can't wait.
Melissa Halpin (57:08)
Bye for now.